The Agency Talks: In conversation with Bill Rice from Kaleidico

Pricing strategy often makes the difference between sustainable growth and constant struggle. We recently had an insightful conversation with Bill Rice, founder of Kaleidico, a specialized lead generation agency serving law firms, mortgage companies, and senior living facilities. 

With over two decades of agency experience, Rice shares valuable insights on building predictable revenue streams while maintaining pricing power in an increasingly complex market.

Building a foundation: Predictable pricing models

At the core of Kaleidico’s success is their commitment to predictable pricing. “We like to give our clients predictability in our pricing,” explains Rice. “We tend to like a fixed, predictable price on a monthly basis that they can depend on.”

This approach helps them in two ways.

Simplified Client Experience

Rather than overwhelming clients with complex hourly rates and itemized activities, Kaleidico handles all the complexity internally, while presenting their clients with clear, fixed-price packages for their services. 

“We’re not passing that complexity on to the client,” Rice emphasizes. “We’re not giving them an invoice full of hourly rates and different people and activities. We figure all that out and give them a fixed price package.”

Transparent Service Breakdown

While maintaining simplicity, Kaleidico still manages to provide clarity on what the client is paying for:

“Because we are offering a lot of different marketing services, we tend to break those marketing services down into chunks, so they know ‘Oh, this much of your retainer is going towards Content Marketing, this much is going towards SEO.'”

Results-Based Metrics

Unlike many agencies that focus solely on deliverables, Kaleidico ties its pricing to concrete outcomes.

 “We do often talk about the number of leads we’re going to generate, which is unique to us as an agency,” Rice notes. “Most agencies just say, ‘Hey, I’m going to do all this work,’ but we’re going to say, ‘You’ll get a couple hundred leads a month.'”

Should you niche down?

As Rice explains, Kaleidico’s decision to focus on specific industries has proven to be a significant competitive advantage for them, particularly in pricing discussions. This specialization helps in two crucial ways:

1. Reduce client overhead

“In a lot of cases, they’ll go to a general PPC Agency or General Content Agency, and they don’t know anything about their industry, so the client has to do a lot of work [in training],” Rice explains.

Kaleidico’s industry expertise for the market it serves eliminates this additional burden on their clients.

2. Inbound can work for agencies

The agency’s specialized approach has created a strong inbound marketing engine for them. “Most of our actual clients come from inbound leads,” Rice shares.

“They’re coming to us as an expert, not only in marketing but marketing in the context of that industry. They know our clients, they’ve seen our success, we’re an industry name.”

Market Segmentation: Why Enterprise Clients Win

One of Rice’s most decisive strategic moves was shifting focus away from small business clients to enterprise customers. This decision was based on several key observations:

In case of SMB clients👇

In case of enterprise clients👇

“The smaller, more budget-constrained clients are sometimes the neediest and least interested in leveraging your expertise,” Rice observes. “Larger clients not only allow you to use your expertise and follow your recommendations but they sort of expect that from you.

Sweet spot on pricing?

Under Bill, Kaleidico has developed a sophisticated approach to pricing that balances standardization with flexibility. Their sweet spot looks something like this👇

Standard Pricing ( for 90% of Clients):

Custom Solutions (for 10% of Clients):

“Instead of pricing down to, let’s say $50 a lead, we’re just saying, ‘Give us this fixed fee, and we’re going to have an SLA of X number of leads for that,” Rice explains.

Several factors influence Kaleidico’s pricing strategy in today’s market. This includes the regulatory environment. Rice talks about the increased scrutiny of lead-generation practices. There’s a need for one-to-one consent in certain industries. The agency also has to adapt its pricing models based on such industry developments.

“Particularly in the mortgage market, which is very cyclical, we’ll go through booms and busts,” Rice notes. “Marketing dollars are plentiful when you need us the least. When you need us the most in bad times, they get a little tighter.”

One of the biggest challenges comes from what Rice calls “the digital marketing charlatan” – agencies offering services they lack competency in. “Once somebody’s been burned once, or they’ve expended a significant amount of marketing dollars, they kind of come to you with a need for a discount,” he explains.

How Bill sees Kaleidico’s future direction

Kaleidico is actively exploring new ways to productize their services:

Some takeaways for agency leaders

  1. Focus on creating clear, understandable pricing structures that clients can rely on.
  2. Industry specialization can create significant pricing power and reduce client acquisition costs.
  3. Consider the long-term resource requirements and profitability of different market segments.
  4. Resist discounting pressures by demonstrating clear value and results.
  5. Tie pricing to concrete deliverables and measurable results.
  6. Be prepared to evolve pricing models in response to regulatory changes and market conditions.

It was wonderful speaking to Bill about his perspective on how to price right. For agencies that are looking to refine their pricing strategy, Kaleidico’s experience demonstrates that success comes from a careful balance of specialization, standardization, and a clear value proposition.

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